Comments on: Give Windows a Swap partition with no drive letter http://www.nerdscene.com/2010/03/31/143/ bitching about everything, one post at a time... Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:54:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eli Sand http://www.nerdscene.com/2010/03/31/143/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Eli Sand Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:00:30 +0000 http://www.nerdscene.com/?p=143#comment-111 Close but not quite accurate - you can have up to 4 primary partitions, all of which can be bootable. This means that if you need just one extra partition (D:), you can make it a primary, bootable partition if need be. If you need more than 4 however, the 4th must be an extended partition. If you do wish to risk it and delete that reserved partition, it seems to let you do it in the GUI partition manager so I would assume they would account for running Windows 7 without it. You can follow the exact same procedure I outlined, but you just simply delete the reserved partition as well (pretty much what you said Sascha). It should work without any issues - I've been running my install since this post without any problems at all. If you follow my instructions properly you shouldn't have any issues with folder privileges - just note that once you set them, you can't undo them unless you force-override the ownership to Administrator from being the TrustedInstaller user. Setting the permissions as I outlined them was done on purpose - you don't want even the Administrator account to be able to wander in to the swap folder... just like Windows prevents you from accessing C:\Windows\Temp. Close but not quite accurate – you can have up to 4 primary partitions, all of which can be bootable. This means that if you need just one extra partition (D:), you can make it a primary, bootable partition if need be. If you need more than 4 however, the 4th must be an extended partition.

If you do wish to risk it and delete that reserved partition, it seems to let you do it in the GUI partition manager so I would assume they would account for running Windows 7 without it. You can follow the exact same procedure I outlined, but you just simply delete the reserved partition as well (pretty much what you said Sascha).

It should work without any issues – I’ve been running my install since this post without any problems at all. If you follow my instructions properly you shouldn’t have any issues with folder privileges – just note that once you set them, you can’t undo them unless you force-override the ownership to Administrator from being the TrustedInstaller user. Setting the permissions as I outlined them was done on purpose – you don’t want even the Administrator account to be able to wander in to the swap folder… just like Windows prevents you from accessing C:\Windows\Temp.

]]> By: Sascha Surkau http://www.nerdscene.com/2010/03/31/143/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Sascha Surkau Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:51:57 +0000 http://www.nerdscene.com/?p=143#comment-110 one more hint: If you do it like described above, you will create 3 partitions: 1. system reserved = boot (contains boot manager, bitlocker files and WIN RE) 2. swap 3. C: = your system Since 4 is the maximum of basic partitions the 4th (if you need it) has to be an extended partition containing other logic partitions (games, data, backup...) As some of us like to install a second OS that demands this 4th bootable partition because extended partitions are non bootable, I will now describe how to get rid of this 1st system reserved partition! ! BUT ! YOU PROBABLY WONT'T BE ABLE TO USE BITLOCKER AND WIN RE! (Since my win 7 is home premium I don't bother and I make system images on my own) Ok, let's go just back to the step after setup has created the first system reserved partition and the second partition: 1. delete second partition 2. expand first partition to your disered wish (for me its a swap/OS partition of 20 GB) 3. create second partition (this is my OS partition of 80 GB) 4. format second partition (default=NTFS 4K) 5. back out and start diskpart as described above 6. select 2nd partition ("select part=2") and type "active" (now partition 2 is "system reserved" and boot manager will be installed on OS partition) 7. select partition 1 8. format and set attributes (I choose FAT32 32K: compatible to DOS-based diagnostic tools and all earlier OS versions) 9. exit and complete setup as described Thank you very much for this good guide! Worked (so far) fine for me, I just had little problems setting the folder privileges... one more hint:

If you do it like described above, you will create 3 partitions:
1. system reserved = boot (contains boot manager, bitlocker files and WIN RE)
2. swap
3. C: = your system

Since 4 is the maximum of basic partitions the 4th (if you need it) has to be an extended partition containing other logic partitions (games, data, backup…)
As some of us like to install a second OS that demands this 4th bootable partition because extended partitions are non bootable, I will now describe how to get rid of this 1st system reserved partition!

! BUT !
YOU PROBABLY WONT’T BE ABLE TO USE BITLOCKER AND WIN RE!
(Since my win 7 is home premium I don’t bother and I make system images on my own)

Ok, let’s go just back to the step after setup has created the first system reserved partition and the second partition:

1. delete second partition
2. expand first partition to your disered wish (for me its a swap/OS partition of 20 GB)
3. create second partition (this is my OS partition of 80 GB)
4. format second partition (default=NTFS 4K)
5. back out and start diskpart as described above
6. select 2nd partition (“select part=2″) and type “active”
(now partition 2 is “system reserved” and boot manager will be installed on OS partition)
7. select partition 1
8. format and set attributes
(I choose FAT32 32K: compatible to DOS-based diagnostic tools and all earlier OS versions)
9. exit and complete setup as described

Thank you very much for this good guide! Worked (so far) fine for me,
I just had little problems setting the folder privileges…

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